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Re: Religious views
« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2010, 06:24:29 am »
Quote from: PublicEnemy on December 06, 2010, 12:22:21 am
Both very interesting  :)
Anyway, I'm a convinced atheist - I do not believe in god, and if I did, I would not support his child-abusing fanclub... :P

So you say you are atheist. Now I used to say I was atheist until the point where I actually understood what it meant. Most people assume atheism is just the disbelief in God, however its not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

There is a difference between someone who is atheist and someone who is nonreligious. I find myself as nonreligious but not an atheist. If you decide to read through the Wikipedia page, I am curious to know that you still find your "religion" as atheist, or nonreligious. In layman's terms, here is my conclusion.

Atheism is a religion based on there are no deities (or Gods) however they still define themselves as a religion and there are actually churches dedicated to atheism.

Non-religion is no religion and usually base their beliefs on facts and science and not blind faith and myth.
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Re: Religious views
« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2010, 12:06:00 pm »
Quote from: iTpHo3NiX on December 06, 2010, 06:24:29 am
So you say you are atheist. Now I used to say I was atheist until the point where I actually understood what it meant. Most people assume atheism is just the disbelief in God, however its not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

There is a difference between someone who is atheist and someone who is nonreligious. I find myself as nonreligious but not an atheist. If you decide to read through the Wikipedia page, I am curious to know that you still find your "religion" as atheist, or nonreligious. In layman's terms, here is my conclusion.

Atheism is a religion based on there are no deities (or Gods) however they still define themselves as a religion and there are actually churches dedicated to atheism.

Non-religion is no religion and usually base their beliefs on facts and science and not blind faith and myth.

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Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color, or not collecting stamps a hobby. Atheism is the lack of belief in a god or gods, nothing more. It is an expression of being unconvinced by the evidence provided by theists for the claims they make. Atheism is not a claim to knowledge. Atheists may subscribe to additional ideologies and belief systems
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Lack of belief in gods
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Re: Religious views
« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2010, 02:46:00 pm »
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Re: Religious views
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2010, 09:34:11 pm »
I believe that something has created everything in the beginning, that could be nothing, something, don't know, I just call it the universe, I don't pray, don't see why your thoughts can be received by something else, I do believe that Everything is happing because it was destiny, everything is destiny, and if you could change destiny, then that was your destiny, and nobody can predict you future since destiny is a man with a mask, and you cant see its face, apart from that, Everything is Science And fact, cause thats the most interesting en logical way
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Re: Religious views
« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2010, 11:06:54 pm »
Quote from: Loverboy on December 06, 2010, 12:06:00 pm
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Awesome. Now I'm gonna start watching this video once a day so I can fully remember it :)
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Re: Religious views
« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2010, 12:59:50 pm »
Quote from: Loverboy on December 05, 2010, 07:42:03 pm
If you are looking for something hard enough you will find it in everything.
the bible is just the same as psychics, they tell you something and you will think about that until you find something that fits the description.

sidenote:
Thats one of the biggest problems with the bible, if something dont fit they just say "we just interprited it in another way" then just remold the words so it fits the 'evidence'
The same might go for you atheists too.
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Re: Religious views
« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2010, 01:14:31 pm »
Quote from: puddipuddi on December 07, 2010, 12:59:50 pm
The same might go for you atheists too.

mh, maybe

but its quite hard to find nothing in everything
and atheists reads the bible as it is written, they dont try to remold the words in it (theres no need for that)

Religion is like one of those long ToS on the internet, you just scroll by it then press [i agree] even if you have no idea what it was all about :)
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Re: Religious views
« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2010, 03:06:06 pm »
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So you all say "dinosaurs" once existed, and if you've read the Bible you've read the part about the ark and the flood.
Today you see fossils of these "dinosaurs".

How do you know if that's not how animals used to look like at that time? So after the flood they drowned, after time turned into bones and dust, and God probably "re-designed" them?

Bonus:
There's a moon to make light at night and a sun to make light at day. You sure someone (God) didn't set up that or it just happened by itself.
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Re: Religious views
« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2010, 03:53:16 pm »
Quote from: puddipuddi on December 07, 2010, 03:06:06 pm
So you all say "dinosaurs" once existed, and if you've read the Bible you've read the part about the ark and the flood.
Today you see fossils of these "dinosaurs".

How do you know if that's not how animals used to look like at that time? So after the flood they drowned, after time turned into bones and dust, and God probably "re-designed" them?

Bonus:
There's a moon to make light at night and a sun to make light at day. You sure someone (God) didn't set up that or it just happened by itself.

First of all, if the ark were there he shouldnt need to re design em because they survived and IF you now believe he re-designed em they you are just making stuff up to make it sound like its true.

My bonus: Then why does other planets with no life on em also have moons?

ps: that kinda sounded like a copy paste troll thread
« Last Edit: December 07, 2010, 03:59:18 pm by ande »
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Re: Religious views
« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2010, 05:01:30 pm »
Quote from: Loverboy on December 07, 2010, 01:14:31 pm
mh, maybe

but its quite hard to find nothing in everything
and atheists reads the bible as it is written, they dont try to remold the words in it (theres no need for that)

Religion is like one of those long ToS on the internet, you just scroll by it then press [i agree] even if you have no idea what it was all about :)

Im atheists but I know the bible :P
so I can mock some peole >:)
I was raised with the Bible and stuff,
but I also know the Edda, hindo, Boedha and Egyptian religion stuff
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Re: Religious views
« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2010, 11:36:02 pm »
Quote from: Huntondoom on December 07, 2010, 05:01:30 pm
Im atheists but I know the bible :P
so I can mock some peole >:)
I was raised with the Bible and stuff,
but I also know the Edda, hindo, Boedha and Egyptian religion stuff

Fun fact.
People that dont believe in god usually know more about the bible and all those events then the guys that believe in him :)
(in most cases they are 'smarter' too)
Thats one of the biggest problems with religion. It forces ppl to not think for them self so it inhibits the free mind and look on stuff from a different point of view
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Re: Religious views
« Reply #41 on: December 10, 2010, 02:34:31 pm »
Hey Guys, How about starting a topic of IS THERE ANY GOD?
I think that would do better...
Any ways I never believe any of God or religion.
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Re: Religious views
« Reply #42 on: December 13, 2010, 07:30:39 am »
everything depend on ourself only..
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Re: Religious views
« Reply #43 on: December 13, 2010, 05:24:18 pm »
Quote from: TXhacker on December 13, 2010, 07:30:39 am
everything depend on ourself only..

I think how you have been raised is important to what you'll believe or not
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Re: Religious views
« Reply #44 on: December 13, 2010, 05:35:11 pm »
Quote from: Huntondoom on December 13, 2010, 05:24:18 pm
I think how you have been raised is important to what you'll believe or not
Exactly Huntondoom.
There's a reason why the people in the middle east are generally Muslim, while the people in western Europe are often Christian (if religious at all) and the Indian people are Hindu. it's because it's what their parents teach them.

On a side note:
Thanks for that reddit link Satan911 (CLICK)
I might show it to my religion teacher :)
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