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Most secure email provider ?
« on: December 26, 2012, 04:46:05 pm »
Which is the most secure email provides? Gmail? yahoo ? hotmail ? If you ask me id say that their popularity is there greatest weakness. Why? Becaus these are the onse that black hats target most, so a large number of users fall in their traps. For example, mostly black hats make rats, back doors, and other MALECOUS programs based on windows and MAC os x  becaus  most users use windows and then most users (less then windows users) use os x. Just like that black hats will keep finding ways to hack popular email provider systems like gmail , yahoo etc . So no matter how secure these emaile provider systems become the black hats will always fined a way to hack it. There for these email systems are only secure for a short amount of time (from latest securety update till the black hats find a way to hack it)

So what do you guys use for emailing? Im using hushmail .(free account) which keeps the data encripted , and the decription key is my password. It also encripts the email when i send it to some one else. This time the debristion key is a questions answer that the recever must know to  access the email.

So what do you guys think about email providers like gmail, yahoo, etc popular services and which is the most secure one to you.
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Re: Most secure email provider ?
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2012, 04:57:28 pm »
Your view on this is wrong.
Gmail is secure as fuck even though it's VERY popular - the only viable weakness is your password strength.
I am using gmail for a very, very long time and will continue to use it (mostly because of the great service and being able to use the IMAP protocol with thunderbird) and it has a great spam protection.

Yahoo mail was great in it's time... many years ago. Now it's just crappy email system.
Hotmail?... pff yeah right.

This view (more popular -> more likely to get hacked) does not apply to gmail in terms of server compromisation. They can only get in if your password is very weak.

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Re: Most secure email provider ?
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2012, 06:04:01 pm »
Your view on this is wrong.
Gmail is secure as fuck even though it's VERY popular - the only viable weakness is your password strength.
I am using gmail for a very, very long time and will continue to use it (mostly because of the great service and being able to use the IMAP protocol with thunderbird) and it has a great spam protection.

Yahoo mail was great in it's time... many years ago. Now it's just crappy email system.
Hotmail?... pff yeah right.

This view (more popular -> more likely to get hacked) does not apply to gmail in terms of server compromisation. They can only get in if your password is very weak.

Dont get me wrong, i never talked about gmail Is poor securety.I like gmail too, but its popularity makes me worryed. There are posts all over the web on how to hack gmail, books only based on how gmail works, how to take it apart, and how to use it for yourself, There are tools that script kiddeys can use to get gmail passwords. Thats why im saying gmail is secure for a short time. Becaus people are always trying to hack it.
NOW i would say gmail is secure only if
MY PASSWORD(Demo similler to my own)  :

<T0h1e1:2H0u6n6t5r7:7H4u5n5t9$:6T5h4e4:6H5u7n7t7e4d>

IS STRONG ENOUGH TO PROTECT MY DATA FROM posted methods of hacking gmail/methods  taught in books/gmail hacking tools.

Note ABOUT MY PASSWORD : FOR making a strong password i choose a long sentence then put special chaseaters like * insted of "o" , $ insted of "S",  : or / betwen every words  and then put numbers betwen every chaseaters. I use a phone number or sl number for making it easey to remember the password like shown above.

And the only thing that bugs me about using populer Services is that there are alot of people out there alwyes trying to hack the system.

MY POINT : More popularaty, more want of it to be hacked.
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Re: Most secure email provider ?
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2012, 07:25:11 pm »
I use Gmail and lavabit.
And yes, popularity has nothing to do with security.
Facebook is popular yet pretty secure in relation to most websites. Same goes for gmail.
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Re: Most secure email provider ?
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2012, 07:38:09 pm »
popularity != vunerable


If anything, since they are more popular, they would have better security. Why do you think no one defaces google and the like, but instead some small ass sites? It's harder.


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Re: Most secure email provider ?
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2012, 07:59:55 pm »
So do you guys agree that Gmail is the most secure email service provider ?
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Re: Most secure email provider ?
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2012, 09:42:55 pm »
Gmail is defiantly secure no doubt about that. Just because something is popular doesn't mean it will be hacked. Also the most plausible hack for gmail is social engineering or you saving your password on your browser or using the same password for other sites.

Now for illicit activities stick with hushmail because Google cooperates with law enforcement and subpoenas.
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Re: Most secure email provider ?
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2012, 03:12:41 am »
I don't know if your strategy is to catch cyber-wrongdoers by saying to them to stick with HushMail or you lack some background in reading news about it. -Insert Fry meme here-
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Re: Most secure email provider ?
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2012, 11:02:36 am »
I understand you being worried that the most popular services are the most likely to be attacked, and that is true. But the most popular services are also the services with the most money. An extremely rich company such as Google can definitely afford top notch security. As said before, Google never gets defaced, but less popular websites do. Google has the money to prevent such things from happening.

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Re: Most secure email provider ?
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2012, 08:40:43 pm »
Which is the most secure email provides? Gmail? yahoo ? hotmail ? If you ask me id say that their popularity is there greatest weakness. Why? Becaus these are the onse that black hats target most, so a large number of users fall in their traps. For example, mostly black hats make rats, back doors, and other MALECOUS programs based on windows and MAC os x  becaus  most users use windows and then most users (less then windows users) use os x. Just like that black hats will keep finding ways to hack popular email provider systems like gmail , yahoo etc . So no matter how secure these emaile provider systems become the black hats will always fined a way to hack it. There for these email systems are only secure for a short amount of time (from latest securety update till the black hats find a way to hack it)

So what do you guys use for emailing? Im using hushmail .(free account) which keeps the data encripted , and the decription key is my password. It also encripts the email when i send it to some one else. This time the debristion key is a questions answer that the recever must know to  access the email.

So what do you guys think about email providers like gmail, yahoo, etc popular services and which is the most secure one to you.

Did you consider the soil the servers are running on?
Secure would also mean that the party in question wouldnt just hand out data to any official that happend to grab a sandwich?
Some countries are  obligated by law to cooperate whereas other have proper privacy protection.
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Re: Most secure email provider ?
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2012, 10:40:32 pm »
You can also use 2 factor verification with Gmail if you're worried about someone getting into your account. Of course if you save your passkey for 30 days on your PC, it somewhat defeats its purpose.

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Re: Most secure email provider ?
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2012, 04:47:21 am »
Gmail with a > 64 alphanumeric characters, but make sure you encrypt everything you send with RSA and use a proxy/ TOR/ VPN, just in case Google decides to go snooping.
Ok, maybe I'm being a little paranoid with the password length and proxy thing but one can never be too careful.

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Re: Most secure email provider ?
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2012, 01:28:08 pm »
Gmail with a > 64 alphanumeric characters, but make sure you encrypt everything you send with RSA and use a proxy/ TOR/ VPN, just in case Google decides to go snooping.
Ok, maybe I'm being a little paranoid with the password length and proxy thing but one can never be too careful.
paranoid has saved many a hacker, so proxy/vpn is a must, not sure abt Tor. Really long password but too careful with the dictionary words.(geolocation, ip problem solved) encrypt the email too which gmail supports and casual users won't understand a thing wen intercepted though not sure wen its intercepted by huge wallet companies. Then i think it won't matter the email client with all that sec.
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Re: Most secure email provider ?
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2012, 03:03:45 pm »
I am using gmail for a very, very long time and will continue to use it (mostly because of the great service and being able to use the IMAP protocol with thunderbird) and it has a great spam protection.


@Kulverstukas: Doesn't using IMAP with Thunderbird send your IP and metadata information in the source email?


@Fur I use 100 chars for my password, lol.
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Re: Most secure email provider ?
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2012, 03:11:41 pm »

@Fur I use 100 chars for my password, lol.


howley crap, seriously, how much time do you spend writing the password?
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